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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

I don't like or trust Andrew Doyle. That doesn't mean that I don't recognise that he is often correct, but, in things like the current spat, he seems (to me) to have an attitude that he and his friends shouldn't be criticised, that he and his friends should be the ones setting the agenda, and that anyone deviating from whatever they have set as a road map is the enemy. He has (again, in my opinion) a blind-spot for anyone who doesn't share his political leanings,which is, frankly, silly.

His idea that lists are always dangerous is nonsensical, and the "You know who had lists - Nazis!!" trope is just a thought-terminating cliché. I didn't get chance to view the list in question before it was taken down, so I can't comment on its content, but the idea in principle is not a bad one. Also, looking at it practically, we are all keeping lists of some sort - in our heads, on our computers, in notebooks - of men who, like Juno Dawson, are men pretending to be women (two sections covered in one! 😁 😁), and It is not hard to imagine that the Index will be circulating behind the scenes, with less oversight.

I completely agree with your "No Compromise" list, and I'll challenge anyone who doesn't.

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Tenaciously Terfin's avatar

What a great retort from the Spectator. It really is time that people stopped pandering to ‘grievance gerbils’. How else would you describe a man who is claiming to be a woman?

The Doyle article about bullying has stirred up a hornets nest. Whilst I don’t believe in bullying of any kind, I do think that Andrew Doyle is being harsh by not taking into account the years of abuse, threats and attacks on rights that our side has been enduring. I’m surprised there’s been so little aggression from the GC movement. Nor does he mention the bullying of people like KJK from those on our side. I don’t think his article was helpful in that he has given the Tras something else to screech about and I wish I’d been a bit more forceful in my reply to him.

No trials please Wes Streeting and there’s no such thing as a trans child! 🤬

Thanks Dusty. Lots to ponder. Both end pieces are becoming clashing ear worms in my head. Help! 😄

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